Kathryn Ruemmler, who served as White House counsel during the Obama administration and later as general counsel of Goldman Sachs, testified before a House committee regarding her past interactions with Jeffrey Epstein, the convicted sex offender who died in 2019. The testimony came after the Department of Justice released thousands of documents revealing her connections to Epstein, including emails in which she used informal terms of endearment and offered him counsel on handling inquiries about his crimes.
When questioned by House oversight committee members about whether she believed Virginia Giuffre was a victim of Epstein and associate Ghislaine Maxwell, Ruemmler stated she did not know but added that she believed some of Giuffre’s allegations “lacked inherent credibility” based on her experience as a former prosecutor and defense counsel. Ruemmler noted that victims of trafficking typically provide specific details about who, when, and where incidents occurred, contrasting this with Giuffre’s accounts that she characterized as involving multiple world leaders and foreign presidents.
Giuffre’s family members, including her brother Sky Roberts and sister-in-law Amanda Roberts, responded to the testimony with criticism. They called Ruemmler’s remarks “reprehensible” and stated that Giuffre’s accusations were responsible for prompting more than 50 individuals to step down from positions of power. The family asserted that “the only person who lacks credibility is Kathy Ruemmler.” Giuffre, one of Epstein’s most prominent accusers, died by suicide in April 2025.
Ruemmler’s representatives stated that she was responding to discussion of specific unsubstantiated allegations rather than all of Giuffre’s claims. They also maintained that Ruemmler had no knowledge of ongoing criminal activity by Epstein and would have taken action had she witnessed anything suggesting he was harming women or girls. Ruemmler told the committee that her relationship with Epstein was professional and that he had “used” her to enhance his credibility, describing their dealings as “a mistake.” She announced her resignation from Goldman Sachs in February.
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